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Disney & Co

Posted by eyore , in Area loops 24 May 2012 · 1,314 views

Disney & Co

Disney & Co is a souvenir store situated on Main Street USA situated between Walt's and Casey's. It sells mainly plush toys of the Disney characters along with Tee shirts and other park memorabilia. Since a recent refurb, it now has a large amount of Pixar-related souvenirs including Cars and Toy Story.

When the park opened, it's centrepiece was a circus organ which has been reported on many sites to have played live music but was soon replaced by recorded music. Recently, the organ has been removed (it's destined for WDW as part of the Fantasyland expansion or so it's said).

Member DavidG has made enquiries about this with imagineers who were involved with it at the very start and reports that the music of this store and the Candy store have always played the recording since the park opened in 1992 with one of the speakers placed behind the organ pipes to give the impression it was playing live (cunning eh and appears to have convinced many - myself included - and given rise to the assumption it was a live organ). This has a precedent at DLRP as the organ in Main St station was never a "working" organ and was a prop built for the station that played a fanfare when a train arrived.
Our grateful thanks to DavidG for this information.
The organ area is now a Mr Potato head section.


Details of track times and edits will appear shortly as will a playlist with links to the tracks.
All tracks  were able to be confirmed using our ears !
It's nice to see the use of two French albums in this loop as well and not just using a carousel loop from elsewhere. They have used a nice selection of CDs for the source (rather than just playing the one CD through).
All tracks are available to buy from the usual places so, once the edits are worked out, a reconstruction is possible. Watch this space. :)
All the albums bar the two French ones were issued (originally) before 1992 although they may possibly have also been issued as early as the parent company is a production music company.
Our thanks again to DavidG for making me re-check the dates of the source albums  and also for pointing out that the same loop plays in the Boardwalk Candy Palace in Main St (between the photography shop and Disney Clothiers) and has done since 1992 and we can confirm that it does, indeed, play there as well. The blog entry for that will refer back to this entry for details.

Dates 1992 - present

Loop time ~55 minutes
Confirmed to a live recording by needmagic May 2012 and Identified by Needmagic, Wedroy1923 and Eyore.

01  California Here I Come - Catch Another Brass Ring

02  Chicago, my kinda town - Catch Another Brass Ring

03  In the Good Old Summertime – Calliope Music and Arrangements - Wagner, J.F. / Sousa, J.P. / Abrahams, M. / Massey, G. / Arndt, F. / Bowman, E. (Circus Music for Calliope)

04  Gimme Dat Ding – Enchanted Carousel

05  76 Trombones – Enchanted Carousel

06  After The Ball - Catch Another Brass Ring

07  American Patrol / Columbia Gem of the Ocean -  La Belle Epoque des Orgues Gavioli (Fairground Organs) [Edited to exclude 02.07 - 02.30]

08  Beside a Babbling Brook – Catch The Brass Ring [Edited to include 00.00 - 01.48, 02.04 - End]

09  The Skaters Waltz – Catch Another Brass Ring

10  Washington Post March - - Calliope Music and Arrangements - Wagner, J.F. / Sousa, J.P. / Abrahams, M. / Massey, G. / Arndt, F. / Bowman, E. (Circus Music for Calliope)

11  Toot, Toot, Tootsie Goodbye – Catch Another Brass Ring

12  Put Another Nickel In – Enchanted Carousel

13  Stars and Stripes Forever – La Belle Epoque des Orgues Gavioli (Fairground Organs)

14   Boston Commandery March – Catch The Brass Ring

15   Old Reliable March – Catch the Brass Ring

16   Oh Dem Golden Slippers - Calliope Music and Arrangements - Wagner, J.F. / Sousa, J.P. / Abrahams, M. / Massey, G. / Arndt, F. / Bowman, E. (Circus Music for Calliope)

17   Sugar Time – Enchanted Carousel

18  You Gotta See Mama Every Night – Catch The Brass Ring

19   Paddelin Madelin Home – Catch The Brass Ring

20  Triumphant Banner March – Catch Another Brass Ring

21  Black Bottom – La Belle Epoque des Orgues Mecaniques (Fairground Organ)

22  Blue Jackets March - Enchanted Carousel

23  Ain't She Sweet – La Belle Epoque des Orgues Mecaniques (Fairground Organ)

24  Beside a Babbling Brook – Catch The Brass Ring

25  Billboard March  - Calliope Music and Arrangements - Wagner, J.F. / Sousa, J.P. / Abrahams, M. / Massey, G. / Arndt, F. / Bowman, E. (Circus Music for Calliope) edited 1:49-2:05/1:21-end
26 Turkey in the Straw - Enchanted Carousel

27  Wien Bleibt Wien (Vienna reste Vienna) La Belle Epoque des Orgues Gavioli (Fairground Organs) (edit 0-1:06 / 2:15-end)

Note that Babbling Brook appears twice (not a typo). One version is edited, the other is not.




Thanks for posting, as always! Will you stop making me spend all that money? ;)

Now, I'll admit that I haven't checked all the release dates as you did, however I know that at least a good part of the loop played well before 2008 or 2011. Perhaps some tracks were originally released on different albums? In fact, Paddlin' Madelin Home has even been re-released on the album Une Journée à Disneyland Paris in 1999.

This also appears to play at Boardwalk Candy Palace; I suspect that it was originally created for that shop and then added to Disney & Co. when the live organ music was discontinued?
Yes, I have the same suspicions. Interesting to note that most of the CDs are from the same company (Kiavier Records) so they may have  been issued earlier under different compilations/album names. I'm also certain that several of the titles have played there from the date the organ stopped playing live (early 90's I think). I don't think we've checked the Candy Palace - damn, another loop to record. Not having a sweet tooth, I've only walked past it and have never been in it! I'll check that out at the end of July when I visit.
Of course it may be another Colonel Hathi trick of changing loop music while keeping a good part of the original. How I wished I'd started this years earlier!


Here's what I could find on release dates:
Catch the brass ring was released in 1987 but the another brass ring not until 2008.
Enchanted carousel is 1990 . Both epoque albums are also 2008.
The Calliope album is 1990.

I'm still looking however.
Found an earlier date for the catch another brass ring album - 1/1/1990 so it looks like you are right - the 2008 date is a re-issue.  Now if I can trace earlier versions of the two French albums it looks like the loop has been playing since it replaced the original organ. I do wish I knew when that was. I suspect around 93 or 95 (when they made big cuts to the budget - mechanical organs are so expensive to keep going. That would be around the same time they disembowelled poor Nelly).
My wife definitely remembers Black Bottom from her time working in the shop in 2005 (in fact even back then she came home whistling it). That's a good sign that those tracks have been around for a while longer than the CD release dates would have us believe!
I don't suppose either of you have any information as to when in the 90's they switched to CD and shut down the live organ?  I can't find anything more detailed. All I can say for sre is that it was live in 1992 when I first heard it but after that the visits all run together.
Sorry, no idea. In the early days I didn't spend much time in the Main Street shops and I haven't yet found any documentation on this.
I wrote to DLRP and asked and they replied that any information has to taken from the website (yeah, plenty on there - not) and they no longer answer questions like this at guest services! Bummer. Looks like someone said more than they should have at some time so they have clamped down.

Like you, I've only found "in the early days" and in the 90's.
As I have been every year since the park opened, I do wish I had paid more attention to things. So much time has passed now people don't remember things like that.
Trying to find out more, I've talked to one of the Imagineers central to creating Main Street and it actually appears that the Candy Palace loop was shared with Disney & Co. from day one. One of the speakers (probably the loudest) was placed in the organ, behind the pipes, but it never played any music mechanically according to the person who designed it.

Filmographik
May 28 2012 10:16 AM
Très intéressant tout cela ! En tous cas, merci pour cette nouvelle liste ! C'est extra.
Well that is interesting. I can only say it "sounded" live when I first heard it and I have read many different sources that say it was a live organ and moved to recorded music early on. It may be that these sources are confusing this organ with Big Nelly and so created an urban legend. As you seem to have got this from the horse's mouth, I'm willing to accept it as a fact so please accept our thanks for the work you have gone to. I shall amend the blog accordingly.
I have never actually read anything official from Disney that suggested anything one way or the other. The information is what has been repeated on other Disney sites and forums. As we often hear, we all know how accurate Wikis can be!
Oh yes, absolutely… The park is so made up of so many elements that are so poorly documented (at least outside the company, although the park's own archives could be handled better as well) that it's incredibly easy to adopt or indadvertedly create urban legends. It's definitely happened to me more than once...

But that's also one reason why I appreciate this blog so much, it's great that you people put so much work in researching and sharing all this information, as accurately as possible.
And may I say how appreciative we are of people like yourself who are willing to correct or add content.
We do try to be as accurate as we can but there's always room for errors for various reasons no matter how hard you try. We don't know everything but are always willing to learn.
I once heard "Paddlin Madeline Home" in one of the Disneyland Hotel shops (Plaza East or West, I don't remember which). Perhaps they also have this loop, you should check it out.
Do you mean the ones just by where you leave the park - generally selling all the sale items?
Forgot all about those two. I'll check in August :)
Yes, I passed through both Plaza East and West today, and Plaza West (the one with fairground and Wild West Show murals) does indeed play the Disney & Co. loop while Plaza East (which has Art Nouveau Disneyland Hotel artwork) plays the Emporium loop.
Excellent. Thank you for that information. For some reason we have never thought about the music in those two stores. Thank you so much for that information.
Neither have I until I read Diminev's comment! Today I had some spare time in the area and decided to investigate...

Filmographik
Mar 02 2013 06:14 PM
I think the loop goes directly from track 07 until track 09 without playing the 08 "Beside a Babbling Brook".
It appears to play in our live recording.

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