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Peter Pan's Flight

Posted by eyore , 08 August 2012 · 1,067 views

Peter Pan's Flight is a popular attraction situated at the junction of Fantasyland and Advntureland and is always a popular (busy) ride.
You board a car in the guise of a sailing ship, fly out of the Darling's window (following Peter's shadow), fly over London and then it's Second star on the right and straight on to morning .
The ride itself has short audio and effects to match the individual scenes.
The queue area plays a loop.


Loop length ~9:16

On the Rooftop
You Can Fly
A Pirate's Life
Never Smile at a Crocodile
Following the Leader
Hide and Sneak
Mermaid Lagoon

The same queue music also plays at Disneyland.
Sounds as though the music is taken from the OST and possibly edited - still working on it - and possibly some from the Fantasy Dark Rides Suite.
Thanks to those whose comments made me look further into this one and identifying further tracks.





ebbelein
Aug 10 2012 02:27 AM
I remember most of this queue music sounding exactly like the songs from the official peter pan soundtrack but without the vocals... I think Disney just took the cues from the from the original film recordings, which is astounding since some of the peter pan material was indeed re-recorded for Disneyland Anaheim in the 90s - but the music in the peter pan queue in Paris clearly sounds like a 40s recording

eyore
Aug 10 2012 06:44 AM
I agree. However we prefer not to add our opinions to the actual blog without having some sort of proof that it's so. I'm sure people reading the comments can draw their own conclusions. Thank you for adding them.

DavidG
Aug 10 2012 07:29 AM
DLP's queue loop uses the same tracks as DL's (although DL seems to play a fifth track, Mermaid Lagoon); putting them side by side confirms that the music wasn't just taken from the soundtrack. Perhaps the 40s feel just comes from the authentically reproduced orchestration combined with a rather low audio quality that's common to most background music in the park?

eyore
Aug 10 2012 09:35 AM
Must admit I hadn't done  a side-by-side comparison.
Thanks for that. A reproduced orchestration would account for why they used the same loop and not make  a fresh one (considering how much new music was created for DLRP). If it ani't broke (and it's good), don't fix it!
The same goes for the other two dark rides there (Pinocchio and Snow White) which also both use the DL versions from the rides. Maybe just to iconic to mess with.

ebbelein
Aug 10 2012 11:06 AM
sadly i have no recording of the paris queue music, but if it´s the same as in disneyland, it matches the original soundtrack... i just compared the you can fly-song song side-by-side in a sound editing program (panning the original movie song to the right side and the queue recording left)- and although the queue music is heavily edited it plays EXACTLY ALONG the original song from the movie. My "comparison mix" now sounds as if i got the singing vocals + music right and the music-only track left...

I didn´t compare the whole queue music, but in this special case this is really the orchestra-only track from the movie...

eyore
Aug 10 2012 12:02 PM
Well, I've deleted that remark about not being available as there is uncertainty.
In what way do you mean "heavily edited"? do you have details?
I'm presuming that you are meaning that the movie music has been cut into edited sections and re-compiled for the ride and that those sections match those sections in the movie (so playing side by side wouldn't work as there would be gaps compared to the original). Have I got that right?
This is interesting.

ebbelein
Aug 10 2012 12:36 PM
yes, indeed, that´s what i meant... for example...

the first part of the queue music´s You can fly-segment is playing underneath the part in the movie song with peter singing "you think of a wonderful thought" - it lasts until the children sing for the first time "he can fly"...

The next thing you hear in the queue music is not the underscore for wendy´s lines "i think of a mermaid lagoon" but the playback for peter´s "think of the happiest things", which is about 50 secs later in the movie... They cut this part out for the queue music... So you´re right, when you try to cut the queue music to the original movie songs - there are "gaps" on the side of the queue music...

eyore
Aug 10 2012 12:43 PM
Being cheeky, you don't have the edit times do you?  This could be important as nobody had spotted that it was edited (well done) here or in DL - at least, I've never heard it being said. Whoo-hoo! an Exclusive! You'd get the credit, of course. I have no doubt that you are correct, you're good on edits!
We'll certainly get to work on it if you don't but there's a lot of pressure at the moment filling in the gaps of the ones still in progress.
Thank you.

ebbelein
Aug 10 2012 01:39 PM
thanks a lot eyore, glad i can help... if someone would have got a live recording of the paris queue music (even one with decent quality) i could try to reconstruct the whole loop by using the actual soundtrack ripped from the movie dvd and look how far we can get with that (and what the edit times are)... will cost my holidays starting in two weeks but i´m curious about this... :)

eyore
Aug 10 2012 04:29 PM
We reckon we have enough to confirm that the loops are the same. DLRP is not a good place to get a recording from apart from in sections and the bits you can hear match the DL ones for which recordings do exist.
I think we can be confident that the loops are the same.
I seem to have made a boob here.  Mermaid lagoon does play but I just didn't recognise it - that's the bit with the pan pipes and harps in isn't it? It doesn't sound like the film version (from the OST) though unless the pipes have been looped several times.
Needs more investigation I think.

ebbelein
Aug 11 2012 12:49 AM
if the mermaid Lagoon music from the queue is not the music from the ost album there is still the possibility that they used other parts from the actual score which are not on the soundtrack album... would be good to have some kind of isolated score on the dvd :) I should try to isolate the score from the dvd, so we have more material...

BTW: how does disneychris´ reconstruction of the loop play in comparison to your live recordings?

eyore
Aug 11 2012 07:12 AM
Cracked it.
It isn't Mermaid Lagoon (although that pipe trill is also used there) On the Rooftop from the OST (haven't checked for edits yet though). An understandable error.
Thanks to all for helping in the discussion.

eyore
Aug 11 2012 08:23 AM
As a little extra information, software IDs the loop tracks as from both the OST and also the Fantasyland Dark Ride suite (the ones that are vocal on the OST).
Also, following Following the Leader is Hide and Sneak (OST) and Mermaid Lagoon

eyore
Aug 11 2012 08:42 AM
I notice that (somewhere around the 2:00 mark, I think) Disneychris falls out of sync badly so the reproduction is shorter than the actual loop by around half a minute plus. Speed seems OK just something missing but I don't intend to spend time finding out exactly what he's missed off as I have the real thing (as far as I know)!
Actual loop 9:16
Repro loop 8:40

disneyphenom
Aug 12 2012 10:15 PM
I have a version of the Anaheim Peter Pan queue loop that runs 9:21 (ending with the panflute theme and a string pluck) that I always thought was a recreation... but sounds like it may be fairly accurate.  Factor in the usual slight differences between playback speeds...

eyore
Aug 13 2012 07:05 AM
That's right, there are two string plucks right at the end.
The start appears to miss out the long single note (4 seconds) intro from the OST of on the rooftop.
Now whether that's because yours is a reconstruction from the OST or because mine misses it out from the recording is another question (I didn't make the recording). It does seem more likely that the actual loop would miss out that four seconds as it is just a single note.
Now here's an interesting point.
On the OST, that single note continues as the melody starts so can be heard in the background. In the Queue version, it's not there.
I'm not sure how they did that BUT it does mean the queue music is not a direct take from the OST
Interesting.
Here is a short clip featuring both intros - the first from the OST and the second from the queue (only a few seconds of each so Jay won't get upset)!
http://www.mediafire...vzq3pvlwknt89eq

disneyphenom
Aug 13 2012 11:13 AM
Missing the held note, and starts more or less with a mid-range fanfare of sorts?  Yep, that's what the file I have does.  Interesting.

It does sound to me like the sustained note is there in both versions, though.  Just a nice cut (or very quick fadeup) on the first note of the "fanfare."

eyore
Aug 13 2012 12:33 PM
yes, you are right (needed to turn my bass up to hear it in the queue version). The two seem to match so OST it is then.
Strange nobody has tackled this one before.

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